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Long long ago my sister got my onto EQ. I was visiting her yesterday and saw these 2...
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In original package!


And:

Nice find! Would love to take sip from that Stein of Moggok! Wonder how many different figurines there are around.

Sharik wrote:In original package!

That's the point where my understanding of collectors fails. Why on earth would you buy some item only to leave it in the original package? Might as well hang a picture of the box on your wall then...

In case of my sister this is purely based on laziness.

lol - now that's an explanation

I would have unpacked the stuff right away and arranged them on a shelf to stare at visitors and otherwise collect dust *g*

slozem wrote:

Sharik wrote:In original package!

That's the point where my understanding of collectors fails. Why on earth would you buy some item only to leave it in the original package? Might as well hang a picture of the box on your wall then...

Eh eh eh ... actually it's not the way the "collectioning" work (and i know what i am talking about).

The "pleasure" comes for the item itself.
It's like a symbol, a simply representetion that remands to something more complex, articulated and, almost everytime, abstract.
It has nothing to do with the "goal" the item has been built for. Like a collectible figure and "playing with a collectible figure" are 2 totally separate things.

That's why "original package" it s so important for collectors.
A child could take his pleasure, is "happyness", by unpacking those and simulate a magic war between 2 magicians, but that's almost nothing to do with EQ and what those 2 figures represent .... and that's why, instead, an EQ fan gives meaning to those 2 items only linking them to the game, his feelings and (now) his memories.

This state of things, is simply confirmed by the fact, if that box would have been opened many years ago, probably today it would be broken, with missing parts (stein of moggok in primis, i'd bet !), if not lost at all.
Try to figure a picture of that ugly Necro, one armed, without packaging and accesories. All the "symbolic" part would have been lost (even because, let's say it, they are UGLY !) with most of the EQ connections our brain activates just as seeing it.

The "picture of the box" theory fails as much it fails regarding every "symbol" in our world ... from crucifix to the teddy bear a little girl sleeps with.

They are just "items" that represent something else, that help people to "feel" ... regardless why and how they have been loaded with so many meanings by the same people.

Nabyha wrote:The "picture of the box" theory fails as much it fails regarding every "symbol" in our world ... from crucifix to the teddy bear a little girl sleeps with.

That is about the worst comparison I have heard in months.

A crucifix is a symbol used to oppress, indoctrinate and addle the masses. And a picture of a crucifix would / could serve the same purpose, much like symbols all over the world.

A teddy bear is an item that is actually *used*, and a representation of a living being, and the sensation of touching it is an absolute key experience that a teddy is all about :p

Don't you ever have a go at my childhood again! :p

slozem wrote:

Nabyha wrote:The "picture of the box" theory fails as much it fails regarding every "symbol" in our world ... from crucifix to the teddy bear a little girl sleeps with.

That is about the worst comparison I have heard in months.

A crucifix is a symbol used to oppress, indoctrinate and addle the masses. And a picture of a crucifix would / could serve the same purpose, much like symbols all over the world.

A teddy bear is an item that is actually *used*, and a representation of a living being, and the sensation of touching it is an absolute key experience that a teddy is all about :p

Don't you ever have a go at my childhood again! :p

Actually, i was pointing at the crucifix like a symbol of hope, faith and pray, that's why the need to handle it, or worshipping it by kneeing in front of. (Not that i'm defending or supporting the church ...just talking about the concept of symbol).

But, again, i was talking about this concept just to try to explain why a single object can represents something different (for each different individual) than what you can simply see.

The picture of the item has someway meaning (that's why Sharik posted 2 images, and didn t just wrote down "i found 2 boxes !") but way less than the real object.
Touching it, seeing it in front of your eyes, but, above everything, to know, you own it .... it what every (real inside) collector aspires from his items.
What i was pointing out, at the start, was that "the item" was the orginal object, in his original package, with all the colors, the pictures, the accesories and so on .... that's why there was no need to open them.

And, obv, i'm not talking about these 2 figures and Sharik ... i was just trying to explain you why a "collector" would never open a package.

I was a different collector then I collected beer mats, crown caps, little animals of all materials, geologically interesting stones/gems, and sea shells - all of those are much more fun if you can touch them and play around with them.

Very nice indeed! Did a search and I found Iwar!
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